TEV-DEM Xerîb Hiso Executive Council co-chair, said that after the beginning of negotiations with ENKS the dialogue with Damascus was interrupted and added that Turkey has an effective relationship with ENKS.

National unity talks between the Kurdish National Unity Parties (PYNK) and ENKS in Rojava started earlier this year but are unable to move forward due to the ENKS's "opposition to Kurdish education, the co-chair system and the Autonomous Administration". The meeting of an ENKS delegation with Turkish officials in Ankara last week arose suspicion among the people. Rojava Democratic Society Movement (TEV-DEM) Executive Council co-chair Xerîb Hiso spoke with ANF about the Kurdish unity talks between the PYNK and ENKS.

Reminding that the unity talks in Rojava have been continuing for almost a year, Xerîb Hiso said that the meetings are supported by the Kurdish. Hiso noted that although the talks sometimes came to a deadlock, the patient approach of the parties was able to overcome the obstacles.

Hiso stated that the main reason for the deadlock was the untimely statements and the meetings with some countries in the region. In particular, he pointed out the frequent visits of ENKS delegations to Ankara.

Hiso said: "The fact that the ENKS runs to Ankara after each meeting, makes statements about it, negatively affects the negotiations. This causes a reaction not only in us, but also in the society. The Kurdish community sees the Turkish state as an enemy and occupying country. The reaction of the people is about these meetings between the ENKS and Turkey, which they see as an enemy and occupying force.”

ENKS relation with Ankara is a problem

"Large segments of the population are still not sure about the ENKS, they are sceptical about them. They have past experiences in mind, Afrin, their role in Serêkaniyê and Girê Spî. All this is causing concern in the community," said Xerîb Hiso adding: "After each meeting the ENKS goes to Turkey. Now what does this mean? It’s going to report to Turkey and then at the next meeting, it put forward the suggestions it had taken from Turkey. Will the talks on the Kurdish unity advance by assuming and reproducing the suggestions coming from the Turkish state? This is clearly a problem.

Evaluating the ENKS's opposition to education in Kurdish, the co-chair system and the Autonomous Administration, TEV-DEM co-chair said: "The Turkish state is against the Kurdish language, against democracy, against women's freedom and revolution. The ENKS makes its demands as a condition in the negotiations."

We don’t know what the ENKS wants

Noting that ENKS immediately said 'we need to consult with our competent bodies' when even the smallest topic is addressed, co-chair Hiso added: “We really do not know what the ENKS wants. When we say yes to what they want, they go to the Turkish state again. So we don't know what they want. Do you want to participate in these values, this revolution, or do you want to side with the invader, the enemy? "

Why did the meetings with Damascus stopped?

Stating that this approach negatively affected the unity talks, Xerîb Hiso said that after the negotiations with ENKS started, the negotiations between the Autonomous Administration and the Damascus regime stopped. Xerib Hiso explained: “For example, before the national unity talks, the Autonomous Administration had some meetings with the Syrian regime. There was a process of dialogue between the two sides, but after these talks, the negotiations between the Autonomous Administration and the Damascus regime also stopped. What is the reason of this? Because the ENKS forces the presence of the Turkish state and this also causes a problem in every aspect.”

The place where to find a solution is Qamishlo

TEV-DEM co-chair Xerîb Hiso said: “We want to say this to our brothers from ENKS: The main thing is the meetings in Qamishlo. The representation of the will of us Kurds and the peoples of the region are in Qamishlo. The place where to find a solution is Qamishlo. The solution is not to be found in Ankara, Istanbul or Antep. In Qamishlo we can overcome all problems. We really ask the ENKS with all sincerity; What have you got from the Turkish state so far? What benefit have they provided you with other than occupation, cruelty, injustice and in fact using you? The Turkish state sees the ENKS as an instrument or card to use. We hope that they will finally see this. "

Not all in the ENKS have the same idea

Those engaged in politics in Rojava and policy makers in the ENKS living in Rojava in Turkey or elsewhere, don’t share the same idea, said Xerîb Hiso adding: "Not all people in the ENKS share the same idea, I think for example those living and working here do not agree. The ENKS people in Turkey actually prevaricate the will of others in other places. In every step they take, they put the interests of the Turkish state before everything else. Those here see this very well. They analyse the mistakes made very well, but they do not raise their voice because they do not have anything in their hands."